tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-652950132925204088.post6118519658727732654..comments2024-03-25T17:34:35.600+11:00Comments on Sarah Stewart: CCK08: Who owns the knowledge?Sarah Stewarthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00480597227427423793noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-652950132925204088.post-75515681406080260312008-10-05T08:14:00.000+11:002008-10-05T08:14:00.000+11:00Thank you , Leigh, for that challenging observatio...Thank you , Leigh, for that challenging observation.Sarah Stewarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00480597227427423793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-652950132925204088.post-62311565355225474262008-10-04T19:33:00.000+10:002008-10-04T19:33:00.000+10:00Surely these are small issues in comparison to a s...Surely these are small issues in comparison to a society that is increasingly separated with those who can afford an education, and those who cannot. Personally I am quite gutted that here in NZ it is actually very hard to find a tertiary teacher with a sense of social justice. We teachers all sat mute a few months ago when Otago Poly students demonstrated <A HREF="http://learnonline.wordpress.com/2008/04/03/nz-student-debt-is-impossible-to-live-with/" REL="nofollow">the student debt situation in NZ</A>. We did nothing, and we can barely bring ourselves to even begin to think about a new model for education that just might lower access barriers and improve our society just a little.<BR/><BR/>Just adding a point that seems to get left out in this development.Leigh Blackallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17845313396595646728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-652950132925204088.post-77051413928118027302008-10-03T07:19:00.000+10:002008-10-03T07:19:00.000+10:00Thank you all for your comments - I appreciate the...Thank you all for your comments - I appreciate them as I try to process the issues and come to a plan about how I am gong to tackle them.<BR/><BR/>@RJ.Yes, the issue of accreditation across institutions is clearly one that will need more work. I deliberately didn't talk about that on this post because at this time, I am more concerned with breaking down the barriers to open education. Any hints of how I can do this?<BR/><BR/>@Carlos. Thank you very much for your view from the perspective of paying student. I desperately need evidence about the views of paying students in order to counteract the argument that open courses will disadvantage them.<BR/><BR/>@David Yes, I think the concern about overloaded with inconsequential material is one that sits heavily with a lot of people. What we need to do as educators is work with them to manage that.Sarah Stewarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00480597227427423793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-652950132925204088.post-15037461581314176232008-10-03T05:17:00.000+10:002008-10-03T05:17:00.000+10:00In the open-access courses I've been enrolled in, ...In the open-access courses I've been enrolled in, I have not had any issue with non-fee-paying students participating. In fact in most cases these students have been more motivated than the fee paying students to contribute to discussion, etc., and have added quite a bit of value to my educational experience (I think you know who I'm talking about Sarah?). In both instances, educators from other institutions have contributed their time and have participated as well, enriching the experience further.<BR/><BR/>The only disadvantage that I can think of is the odd bit of spam going through the communication channels.David McQuillanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11631016980155581091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-652950132925204088.post-74782271239572055192008-10-03T01:11:00.000+10:002008-10-03T01:11:00.000+10:00Hi Sarah!I agree with you in the idea that "it mak...Hi Sarah!<BR/><BR/>I agree with you in the idea that "it makes not sense to pay for knowlegde". I am happy that this course is open and free, but I pay for it. I did it because I think that I am going to need the "credits" in the futur. Yeap... I don´t like that the institutions and burocracy in Spain ask all the time for credits to achive some job, but it is so, and I try to play with it in the best way. You cannot buy knowledge, you can only buy credits... If you don´t need to do it... better. Conclusion: I pay for the course and I find at the same time genial that it is an open course.Carloshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07566548913031608474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-652950132925204088.post-76681053716209416592008-10-03T00:41:00.000+10:002008-10-03T00:41:00.000+10:00Hi, Sarah,Your comments about the privacy issues f...Hi, Sarah,<BR/><BR/>Your comments about the privacy issues for health sciences students versus liberal arts students are bang on. I manage IT for both HS libraries in hospitals and on-campus libraries and their needs are decidedly different.<BR/><BR/>I also concur with your thoughts on the provision of education, though I would break it down further. Access to information/knowledge/learning should be open and free. If a student wishes, needs or can afford tuition, that should be a separate cost, as should assessment and accreditation. I should be able study freely, choosing the resources (including tuition, or not) that best fit my style and needs and then, if I wish, challenge for credit through an assessment process (essay or exam or whatever). I should be able to choose the institution or organization, based on reputation or other factors relevant to me, from which I want to receive the credit. The credits should be cross-institutional and valued equally. Transparent. My $0.02.<BR/><BR/>Cheers, RJAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com